Moving DSS LITE to another system after January 31st

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01-16-2008, 01:57 AM
To-M

Moving DSS LITE to another system after January 31st

Additional notes about DSS LITE User activation and registration!!

Please keep in mind that the registration is keyed to your system.

So if you plan on using the DSS LITE on another system after January 31st this will not work. The activation that you have registered is tied to the original system. So keep this in mind and think of spare parts for the future :).

Professional version of DSS (4TB, 8TB and 16TB) does not apply to this. Professional version of DSS can be easily interchanged with many systems without activation.
01-16-2008, 05:29 AM
cyberygan

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Originally Posted by To-M

Additional notes about DSS LITE User activation and registration!!

... The activation that you have registered is tied to the original system. So keep this in mind and think of spare parts for the future :).
...

So what parts are allowed to be changed? Different NICs? Bigger HDDs? Faster CPU?
01-17-2008, 02:57 AM
To-M

License key is related to the hardware list, this can be accessed in the Console tools in "Hardware info" (ALT+CTRL+H), only exception is recreation of the Units, Soft Raids and Tape devices. Though in some cases if in the event there is a hardware issue an you need to reactive because of needed replacement then this can be arranged :).
01-17-2008, 12:07 PM
Pommes

Quote:

Originally Posted by To-M

Additional notes about DSS LITE User activation and registration!!

Please keep in mind that the registration is keyed to your system.

So if you plan on using the DSS LITE on another system after January 31st this will not work. The activation that you have registered is tied to the original system. So keep this in mind and think of spare parts for the future :).

Very strange..

On Jan 15th you answered my question about changing the system in another thread with

Quote:

Yes you can boot with an activated DSS LITE USB stick onto a different system.

Which is quite the opposite of your above statement. :-(

As many users showed concern about the activation process (which effectivly rules out any real production use), we are slowly told the truth.

It is a demo, nothing less but nothing more...

Regards,
Georg
01-17-2008, 01:07 PM
juergenb52

Moving DSS LITE to another system after January 31st / VMWare

Hi,

i installed the DSS Liste on USB Stick last days.

After reading all the problems with moving to a new hardware i tried with moving to VMWare Server.

After Moving the DSS Liste from USB Stick to VMWare HDD Image i needed to activate againg, this was no Problem at all, now (still january).

I will test again after 31 January. But if this is not possible with the same S/N DSSLite will be a NOGO.

Maybe open-e Support can give a statement if in case of

a. First Activation is only possible till 31 January (no S/N at all)
b. Reactivation after January will be possible after changing hardware parts and using the same usb stick and S/N

This would give all the users with a valid S/N received in January to change hardware in case of HW Failure.

kind regards

Jürgen
01-17-2008, 02:12 PM
juergenb52

Sorry,

booting from hdd vmware didn´t worked. DSS Lite was still booting from USB. :confused:
01-17-2008, 04:59 PM
masim

Thanks Open-e for offering this nice software. It give me what I am looking for… It is GREAT

It’s a good idea to keep some hardware parts.. at the end of the day the cost of this H/W units will be inexpensive compared to the value of the data.
I don’t know why people complain about the activation thing after the 31st. Its free and come with some support.. what else we want???!?!?!?! :confused:

Now, I am looking to buy the 4TB version to put it in production, and if it works fine, we are going to buy your 16TB version

Thanks
01-17-2008, 06:59 PM
Pommes

Quote:

Originally Posted by masim

I don’t know why people complain about the activation thing after the 31st. Its free and come with some support.. what else we want???!?!?!?! :confused:

There is NO activation after the 31st. If you have it in production and for some (and according to my testing - there are a lot) reasons it needs activation again, you rely an open-e to activate your copy. But you cannot be sure this will happen. You have been told that this will not be possible.

Basically you have a free software with no functionality and your systems will be down.

You either buy it or you forget about it.
01-17-2008, 07:10 PM
To-M

I have stated in other postings that we will activate if there is an issue and you need to change out the hardware. Not sure how else to explain it.

Also we have DSS versions 4TB and 8TB that do not have this issue with activation and they are less expensive then the 16TB professional version. I understand your frustration with the DSS LITE and this is why we have the professional version that are affordable for 2TB and 8TB for those who do not wish to entertain the DSS LITE.
01-17-2008, 08:30 PM
Pommes

Quote:

Originally Posted by To-M

I have stated in other postings that we will activate if there is an issue and you need to change out the hardware. Not sure how else to explain it.

Thanx a lot for clarifying this.
Summary: I will be able to reactivate a DSS Lite version (which becomes deactiveted due to HW changes) even AFTER 31st Jan given that it was first activated BEFORE 31st Jan. Correct?

There were quite a few statements which pointed in another direction:

a) Individuals will be able to download, install, register and activate the DSS LITE software UNTIL January 31st of January 2008.
b) We will decide AFTER January 31st if we will allow for certain conditions to re-activate
c) ...

Best Regards
01-17-2008, 08:38 PM
icuin0or1s

I just have to jump in here and place my thoughts for those of you like pommes (new to the storage world) who want everything for nothing!
I have been doing SANs for a long time now and I am just going to place my 2 cents here for those of you who have issues with a free product regardless if it is DSS lite!
First if you’re going to evaluate anything test it first. Then think it through and use your left and right brain here people, I can’t understand the difficulty here.
Our facility always keep exact spare parts for soooo many reasons. Now for those of you who are new in this industry this is standard in many military installations and government projects. Also many of the competitors that are proprietary in the SAN market do the same (go and ask and do your research NetApp, EqualLogic LeftHand…you get the idea).

I am thinking that some of you just want free everything, maybe they should give away free hardware as well but then you would complain that they are not good enough, or to slow or that they don’t consistently provide latest.

Go and get the DSS 4TB version, won’t cost much and as To-m has told everyone if you need help on activating again after the 31st they will help you. Or just get the same hardware for replacement parts like we do, it really is not that expensive (if you value your data) and we do this in our facility to service our customers and the equipment we sell starts $15,000+++ and good luck if you change out too different hw – you might just be surprised at the response.

Also I did a google search to find free NAS+iSCSI+FC with a GUI front end and did not come up with anything that is like this with a USB and no need to have another OS like Windstar. I will keep looking though.

Thanks Open-e guys for providing DSS lite!!!
01-17-2008, 08:53 PM
masim

We should all help Pommes get DSS 4TB to help him as he does not want to get spare parts.

Man a lot of us are happy with this.. and TO-M offers to help whoever needs help.. So lets everybody deal with his own case

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pommes

Thanx a lot for clarifying this.
Summary: I will be able to reactivate a DSS Lite version (which becomes deactiveted due to HW changes) even AFTER 31st Jan given that it was first activated BEFORE 31st Jan. Correct?

There were quite a few statements which pointed in another direction:

a) Individuals will be able to download, install, register and activate the DSS LITE software UNTIL January 31st of January 2008.
b) We will decide AFTER January 31st if we will allow for certain conditions to re-activate
c) ...

Best Regards
01-17-2008, 08:59 PM
icuin0or1s

Man, I will contribute 20 euros to Pommes so we all can make him happy, but then it might not be enough for him LOL.

He must be new in the storage industry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by masim

We should all help Pommes get DSS 4TB to help him as he does not want to get spare parts.

Man a lot of us are happy with this.. and TO-M offers to help whoever needs help.. So lets everybody deal with his own case
01-18-2008, 06:18 PM
Pommes

This has nothing to do with spare parts. Actually i have tons of spare parts, that was one of the reasons of looking into this offer.

But if an activated product might become unusable without an option to reactivate it it is not a free offer - it is a trap.

Furtunately open-e made a very strong statement that this was not the intention and that their offer is indeed a very valuable one.

The (by far) number one annoying thing with it stuff (hardware and especially software) is ACTIVATION. It is always very cumbersome.

e.g. direct internet connection, no proxy requirements (for a sensitive storage appliance???)

If you trust your customers, they will put trust in you...
01-19-2008, 02:46 AM
To-M

I will make this very clear, any more postings concerning that we have a "PR" agenda or a "trap" will be removed from the forum. We do not have time to play PR games or traps as we are extremely busy and do not have the time to entertain this rhetoric. You have misjudge the hard work and intentions that went into DSS LITE.

We wanted to provide everyone the opportunity for all to have DSS LITE and we had no idea of the success, the activation is not a trap or PR stunt.

Any unproductive postings will be removed. If you have issues with this and our the conditions feel free to email me.

For the record activation will be allowed after January 31st.
01-20-2008, 05:58 AM
cyberygan

Quote:

Originally Posted by To-M

For the record activation will be allowed after January 31st.

You do mean 'will'? You didn't miss the word 'not'? That will be great news.
So I can use the file downloaded earlier, and install later? If yes, this is indeed great news. The product itself has been always great. We have been using iSCSI Enterprise since last year.
01-20-2008, 10:04 PM
To-M

If you have registered before the 31st you will be able to reactivate after the 31st.